Forums - MvC2: Is Thanos top tier? Because I think he should be Show all 30 posts from this thread on one page Forums (http://www.shoryuken.com/forums/index.php) - Strategy & Tactics (http://www.shoryuken.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?forumid=10) -- MvC2: Is Thanos top tier? Because I think he should be (http://www.shoryuken.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=50525) Posted by Fraggle909 on 12:31:2001 08:11 PM: MvC2: Is Thanos top tier? Because I think he should be I mean it his supers have no start up. He has a fast dash. His knee stomp is useful for rush down. Takes damage well I don't see any reason he shouldn't be top tier. Posted by Ouroborus on 12:31:2001 08:28 PM: and his super has major recovery time, no air throw, no air dash or anything like that. he has no useful moves. the bubble and charge can only do so much. maybe he'll be top tier if Capcom left him alone during the translation from MSH to MvC2. Posted by n817azn on 12:31:2001 08:38 PM: Yerp, i hate to say it but Thanos just doesn't cut it. I tried to use him for a while, but he has a couple major problems. Only one of his supers has small lag time, so on any of his other supers he's screwed. And the major down thing about him, he is too damn slow. Plus his moves are not that damaging. All of the top tiers own him for free. n8 Posted by Fraggle909 on 12:31:2001 09:14 PM: Also he is invincible during his energy drain and the super where he call the rocks. Posted by n817azn on 12:31:2001 09:28 PM: quote: Originally posted by Fraggle909 Also he is invincible during his energy drain and the super where he call the rocks. during it is not the problem, its after those moves when he's screwed.In the lag after the rocks one i could build a house, write a book, and still have time to go combo his azz. n8 Posted by ^Moncho^ on 12:31:2001 10:06 PM: Who is thanos?, I only know 9 characters, do you know what I mean? Posted by No SpeaK on 12:31:2001 10:49 PM: mike z's second vid shows a VERY usefull combo that would make me consider him as a top tier....(can u say "infinite"?) Posted by Dasrik on 12:31:2001 10:53 PM: As I've proven multiple times, holding up-back beats Thanos for free. He's got no air throw to keep you from doing it - what's he going to do, chip you with Space Gem? He's too slow to ever worry about getting hit with a low short, and has no practical guard breaks, so just hit him with one combo then hold up-back for the rest of the match (or until Thanos tags out... then snapback and repeat ). I'm not joking either. I'm perfectly serious. No SpeaK: Can u say "all infinites stop after 50 hits"? Even without that, can u say "MASHABLE"? Get the net... Posted by MJG on 01:01:2002 06:06 AM: quote: Originally posted by No SpeaK mike z's second vid shows a VERY usefull combo that would make me consider him as a top tier....(can u say "infinite"?) Tons of characters have infinites, some have more than one. Does anyone say that Ken is top because of his corner hurricane infinite, or Tron because of hers? I doubt you would ever see Thanos' pulled off in a match unless one player was amazingly better than the other. Posted by voodazz on 01:01:2002 07:23 AM: I hate to say it, but I agree that Thanos is just not that good of a character and that's a real shame, too because he really had the potential to be really dominant character. Plus I've always been a fan of Thanos in the comic book and if any of you know him from the comics, then you would know how much of a bad mo fo he truly is instead of this wuss you see before you in MVC2.....damn shame..... Posted by BlackShinobi on 01:01:2002 07:54 AM: DOES ANYONE ON THIS SITE KNOW WHAT TOP TIER MEANS. 1. Dear god the lag 2. less than great combos 3. no beam (Every MVC2 top tier either has a beam or a one button projectile, except storm whos projectile is COMPLETELY INVINCIBLE) His only real upside would be the number on 75-100% damage combos that can be set up off of his bubble assist Posted by MadDogMiXon on 01:01:2002 11:54 AM: His wrinkly chin sure is cool he has some cool things he can do, knee-drop then call assist is pretty good with certain teammates as well as his wrinkly chin, that and his insanely simple super combo's that hurt like hell. He isn't top tier this is true, what does that matter if you play him supa well? i'm sure he may have a chance then{not against EVERYONE this is know but he can be used well}{use what you have}. Double Bracket for no reason IS GOOD STUFF! Posted by ^Moncho^ on 01:01:2002 08:54 PM: quote: DOES ANYONE ON THIS SITE KNOW WHAT TOP TIER MEANS. TOP TIER=WINNER Posted by jballa1 on 01:01:2002 09:09 PM: quote: Originally posted by MJG Tons of characters have infinites, some have more than one. Does anyone say that Ken is top because of his corner hurricane infinite, or Tron because of hers? I doubt you would ever see Thanos' pulled off in a match unless one player was amazingly better than the other. i agree you don't say a character is top tier because they have an infinite. If it were like that half the characters or more in MvC2 would be top tier Posted by DeathFromAbove on 01:01:2002 09:15 PM: I play Thanos. So what's with everybody bagging on Thanos. Top Tier...no, but he isn't that bad. Review... Soul Gem: Very fast startup, and hits full-screen, he's invincible once it hits. See air photons...Soul Gem. Flight...Soul Gem. Jump back HP...Soul Gem. Yeah, so he's a black hole for meter... Power Gem: Fast starting, good damage, good recovery...beam super. What's not to like? You can even add a Soul Gem afterward. Capture Assist: Guardbreak into Capture Bubble = Combo of Choice. AC to airthrow + Capture Bubble is the worlds easiest damage reset. DHCs...I do standard Storm AC DHC Space Gem...Like Lunch Rush, there's no damage scale for DHC on Space Gem. Or any rushing super XX Reality Gem. Reality Gem doesn't scale for DHCs either. Jumpback HP: Nice range and priority. Pretty much equivalent to Capcom's jumpback HP. Ground Throws: quite possibly the longest ranged throws in the game. It's quite possible to throw your opponent out of their dash-ins with regularity. And he's fun, dammit. -DFA Posted by BlackShinobi on 01:02:2002 01:31 AM: quote: Originally posted by ^Moncho^ TOP TIER=WINNER Posted by Orion_of_Chaos on 01:02:2002 01:43 AM: I love Thanos... he's a great character... just because his supers have bad lag afterwards doesn't mean they're terrible... it just means that you can't throw them out at random... He has simple and damaging combos... His infinite may be mashable, but you don't even have to repeat... Once you hit with a bubble, you can do whatever you want... Also, a combo being mashable doesn't make it bad... Hypergrav xx tempest may be mashable, but I'll bet a majority of the people here still rely on it with their piece of shit Magnetos... Bubble assist is great... It can set up and be part of soo many damaging combos... s.lp, s.lp, Power, Soul is a great combo, really damaging, and fills up your life bar(a little, but it's life)... I love to use him with Blackheart... BH just builds meter all day, and then Thanos comes in and kicks ass... my Blackheart/Thanos/Doom has beaten soo many top-tier teams... I don't know if thats the characters strength, or just my pure skill, though... I've beaten tons of top-tier teams with Dan/Tron/Ken too ... MSP fell to their knees like the whores they are to that team... Posted by Orion_of_Chaos on 01:02:2002 01:48 AM: I'm not saying that he's top tier, but he is damn good... Posted by Infamous CBear on 01:02:2002 02:42 AM: quote: Originally posted by n817azn during it is not the problem, its after those moves when he's screwed.In the lag after the rocks one i could build a house, write a book, and still have time to go combo his azz. n8 LMAO!!!! Posted by IcarusDownworks on 01:02:2002 06:56 AM: He MAY be top tier material if he wasn't so damn slow. Who cares that his supers have lag, don't use them. His infinite is basically useless unless you are playing some retard who does't know how to mash. He has a pretty damn good assist, the main problem is his speed. Posted by Super Armor on 01:05:2002 04:28 AM: Unfortunately, thanos doesn´t cheese enough or is fast enough or has an overpower help to be a top tier. Wait, Thanos could be a top tier if he had all his supers from MSH back. Specially the one that makes the opponents controls go crazy. Just kidding. Huummm. It wouldn´t be a bad idea though. Posted by Pentium on 01:05:2002 06:45 AM: one thing about thanos that i have noticed is when you dash w/ him and hold forward after you das he keeps dashing he doesn't stop running i have tried it with other charecters and it has not worked Posted by DeathFromAbove on 01:05:2002 08:22 AM: quote: Originally posted by Pentium one thing about thanos that i have noticed is when you dash w/ him and hold forward after you das he keeps dashing he doesn't stop running i have tried it with other charecters and it has not worked That's because his dash length is fullscreen. Ditto for Mags & the Wolverines, except theirs are fast. -DFA Posted by C-Royd on 01:05:2002 03:44 PM: Dont ask if Thanos is top tier. Why does that matter? it doesnt. What if people say he's not? are you going to stop using him? or not even start? If you find a way to gain good wins with Thanos, then why does it matter whether he's top tier or not Posted by Amdabes on 01:05:2002 06:45 PM: Thanos is top tier in Japan, but so is Son Son and Sakura. Either the Japanese really suck, or they must know something we don't. But seriously, I really doubt even the best Thanos player in the world could beat an average top tier. Posted by BlackShinobi on 01:06:2002 12:24 AM: quote: Originally posted by Amdabes Thanos is top tier in Japan, but so is Son Son and Sakura. Either the Japanese really suck, or they must know something we don't. But seriously, I really doubt even the best Thanos player in the world could beat an average top tier. I don't know about all of Japan but the tiering system White used was much more all around the the Amercan one. Some of the characters on his list where top tier because of there assists. And as a whole Japan still behind the US in MVC2, which good because we get beaten shamelessly in everything else. Posted by DeathFromAbove on 01:06:2002 01:04 AM: quote: Originally posted by Amdabes I really doubt even the best Thanos player in the world could beat an average top tier. I've beaten some average Doom's and Magneto's with Thanos. It's only possible based on surprise. If the opponent has a clue what Thanos does in-match, it's over. With that element of surprise, and a large stockpile of supers, he can get some kills off of very few hits. -DFA Posted by Ouroborus on 01:06:2002 05:03 AM: quote: Originally posted by Amdabes Thanos is top tier in Japan, but so is Son Son and Sakura. Either the Japanese really suck, or they must know something we don't. But seriously, I really doubt even the best Thanos player in the world could beat an average top tier. Thanos is not top tier in Japan. Just where the hell did you hear hes top tier in Japan? Posted by Deathfist on 01:10:2002 07:22 PM: How Thanos helps almost every team he is in... 1]Power to soul DHC opens the door to a godawful amount of empty meter kill combos 2]Can stop runaway, but it is kinda risky. He also needs meter to do it. How Thanos hurts almost every team he is in... 1]IMO Thanos loses to alot of top tier characters like Mags, Cable, maybe Storm, Spiral, basically the big five on point. 2]His assists have no stopping power, or are easily stopped, or are very ineffective screen control options. 3]Although Thanos has terrible recovery on all his supers except one, you have to keep in mind that almost [if not] all of this time while his hand is up the screen is still blue and if attacked and he has Storm or better yet Ironman next he can DHC hitting you. Nonetheless, if he cannot DHC for some reason and he was doing any super other than power he's done for. An expert with him will not have this problem often. 4]Thanos is a weak battery. I may be wrong, politely explain how if I am. I kinda like the big guy. Top tier means that you are in the same league as the best character[s] in the game overall. This means you must be able to beat some top tier characters, and be even with most of the others. If most or all of them own you you are not top tier. period. Posted by Geese on 01:10:2002 07:36 PM: quote: Originally posted by C-Royd Dont ask if Thanos is top tier. Why does that matter? it doesnt. What if people say he's not? are you going to stop using him? or not even start? If you find a way to gain good wins with Thanos, then why does it matter whether he's top tier or not No shit. Just shut the fuck up about top tier you drones. Are the people in your arcade going to beat the shit out of you if you don't use top tier? Is your mom going to ground your ass if you don't use top tier? Do you feel ashamed of the fact that you use low tier? Does it make you cry yourself to sleep at night? 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